More Global Warming and Climate Change thoughts

Okay, I'll bite, TBC... (good topic, btw)

I'll counter you on this one just for the sake of good old debate.

Firstly, is it highly possible or no - that in the midst of all this debate about Global Warming, the focus is centred far too much on 'people,' and not enough focus is based truly on 'climate' and 'geo' studies at all?

What I mean is - drastic, long-term climate changes occurred before mankind was ever an
issue. Thousand-year long and longer freezing and heating periods have occurred long before
the industrial revolution - indeed - long before scientists think that 'man' ever walked the
earth. The earth is still here - and yes, I do agree that mankind is polluting the
environment - but is there a need to attribute ALL of the 'climate changes' to mankind and
to 'global warming' issues that point a finger almost exclusively at man? Do we all really think that we have been powerful enough and important enough to collectively ruin the earth and cause a catastrophic almost-to-occur-in our lifetime event? (Sounds a lot like Abraham stories to me, verging on the birth of a new religion to me).

Secondly,
When we hear the terms 'experts agree that' and 'overwhelming consensus is that' - are these
phrases coming from media sources and 'advocacy' groups - or truly from intelligent, highly
skilled analysists, experts, and people who are truly qualified to make such statements. Some are. Some aren't. We should check, shouldn't we? We should examine different sources before we go making strongly voiced arguments, shouldn't we?

Heck - even one of my favourite environmentalists and scientists, David Suzuki, has even
been criticized for having an 'agenda' not directly attached to the REAL truth about global
warming. (ie...reputation is a helluva motivation factor).

Lastly,
Do we NEED to take a side here?

I won't...

YET.

I won't say that "Yes, Global Warming is happening and it is because of man."
I won't say, "No, Global Warming is not happening - mankind is fine in the way that mankind
treats the environment."

What I will say is:

Global Warming is happening and nobody knows why yet.

and

Mankind is abusing the environment in a completely heinous way.

The action that I can take is to check reports and sources until I find that I have enough
information to decide what I believe before I go voicing strong and loud arguments.

The proposed 'plans' (like the Kyoto agreement, for one) that 'experts' have drummed up
don't convince me at all that mankind will solve mankind's abuse of the environment with
'harm reduction' methods. Even if such propositions ARE THE ANSWER...there doesn't seem to
be any decent ENFORCEMENT of the plans so that they can be effective in correcting any
global environment situation that we believe might be cause, in part by mankind.

Again - Mankind will not solve problems caused by Mankind when Mankind cannot even implement what looks like a good plan of action for solving problems.

Then again - I come back to this...are we sure that all the global warming problems are, indeed, caused by man? What if the ideas proposed (ANYWHERE, by ANYONE) for global warming would ONLY WORK if global warming is only caused by mankind's abuse of the environment. These ideas would never WORK if implemented against a causal agent that is not really the cause of the problem. That would be like sending out policemen to respond a crime in Boston but giving the policement a Detroit address.

What about 'cycles' that have been going on forever and the fact that the earth was here for millions and millions of years before mankind every got mankind's dirty little money-grabbing, oil hoarding, polluting, abusive hands on her?

I think it might help to continue to treat the issues separately and study them separately for just a little while longer...like maybe for another day or so.

Maybe it's just the Canadian in me, saying "Don't Act Yet before all the facts are in."

Abuse of the environment is a big TOPIC with many branches of issues...
Environmental changes is a big TOPIC with many branches if issues, too...

Perhaps if we don't lump them together just yet - and we learn as much as possible about each myriad of issues within each topic, we'll find some better answers than we are currently hearing about in our media...

The scariest question: What if the earth is supposed to 'cycle' and do what it is doing, no matter WHO is or is not on earth?

I guess I haven't solved any problems today - but I sure did argue with TBC a lot, huh?

Whoops - I meant - SuperTBC!

Glad you're back.

;)

Global Warming and Climate change thoughts

Well, I know we have been through this once already Teeray, however, I never got to post my rebuttal to your thoughts on global warming. In doing this, I remembered an article that I read in newsweek magazine a few weeks ago called "Global Warming is a Hoax". You can read the full article here . Also I found this timeline which helps to explain important events related to global warming. The timeline is here. To summarize the article in a few words, it details how the republican party along with funds from big oil and energy companies fuel the global warming debate and encourage skepticism on the issue in congress and with the general public. The facts are pretty concrete. The report issued by the IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change), for instance, was written by more than 800 climate researchers and vetted by 2,500 scientists from 130 nations. Compare this with only a few handfuls of scientists who are skepticists of global warming, and you begin to see the real picture. Then take into account the fact that of these few handfuls, many are involved in studies which are being funded by the oil and energy companies. The truth is that President Bush, along with the rest of his party, seem to have problems when it comes to facing the truth, or perhaps they just cant understand it, so I"ll spell it out for them. The earth IS getting hotter due to the greenhouse effect, and the U.S. is fighting an unwinnable war in Iraq. The issues are unrelated except for the fact that our current administration seems to have the same problem as a alcoholic or addict, which is the refusal to face the truth. The only difference here is while the alcoholic or addict is only harming themselves and a few other people, our current government is harming an entire generation of people across the entire globe.

Canadian Penny for your thoughts, Teeray?



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Listening to: Three Days Grace - Never Too Late (Main Version)
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SuperTBC has returned!!!!

Sorry Teeray about disappearing for awhile. I traveled to the outer realms of this universe towards a planet called Krypton, or what is left of it anyways. Sad to say there is nothing much left of my home planet. Lois had a kid while I was gone!!! What?? LOL, on a serious note though, I have been very busy offline with my job and family, but slow season for the tourist industry has now arrived so be looking for my face around here a lot more often from here on out. Gosh Teeray where did you take this blog?? I need to get this blog back on track discussing important global issues and political viewpoints again (LOL). Needless to say, we will be leaning away from the Canadian feminist viewpoint from here on out (LOL).

PSSSSTTTT: Hey Teeray, really I just wanted to use SuperTBC as a tag for this blog!!!!


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Listening to: The Doors - The Unknown Soldier
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In Search of TBC

Hello,

I'm on a search for my long-lost blogging partner, TBC. If anyone has heard from him, please let me know. I have seen him lurking around from time to time, but cannot quite track the li'l rascal down!

Without TBC this blog is in danger of becoming 'feminized,' 'Canadian-ized,' and point toward Canadian women's issues.

TBC would just HATE THAT...so I'm pretty sure he's going to rush in here pretty soon, in a flurry of activity and posting - to prevent me from BECOMING BOSS of this blog lol

*waves* Hey TBC!